All those great cars and none racing.

[2JZSS]

I have to say i back the U3500 argument. If the u3500 class can get a good following it can only be for the top guys. I'm currently in the process of building a new car and have tossed up the idea of running in the outright category or the u3500 class.

The u3500 class appeals to me because it would be alot cheaper to run in and if i ever get the bug which I'm sure i will i can step up to the outright category without much issue.

Spec brakes for u3500 would also be a great idea. Keeping costs down and leveling the playing field (in one area).

My only concern for the u3500 class is that i personally don't know of many cars being built for the class. If there was more info on cars in the build for the class it would certainly spur a few people along to build these types of sports sedans because after all id rather strap a turbo to my 3.5Lna and get my butt whipped (enjoy the extra speed) in outright than run around with 2 cars in u3500. I understand its still a race within a race so you still are racing outright sports sedans but who honestly would want to win a u3500 championship when there was only you and another guy in the class.

I praise the guys currently running in the u3500 category as someone has to test the water first and i realise that you cant all of a sudden make a category and have 20 cars in it. Hopefully there a few guys out there about to hit the tracks in u3500 cars. I know it would make me reconsider which way to go and possibly entice others to join...

[toranaracer]

We made the decision to compete in the entire 2010 Kerrick Series in U3500NA as well as our Victorian State Series.
Our car is not the fastest or the latest built, however we keep coming out so owners with similar level vehicles can see there is a place for our cars at the National level.
Yes there are normally only one or two of us, but as of Morgan Park we are 7th outright !!!!
It has been commented that we put on some of the best racing for the weekend.
We all pissed and moaned that we are a "Chev only" category, and yet only 5 competitors (Hibberd, Gilliland, Duckworth, Johnson & Natoli HM) have supported this intiative by the National organisers.
So come on guys, we can do this on a very limited budget, so come and join us at Eastern Creek and Sandown.

toranaracer.

[petrolhead]

Well said toranaracer, you are spot on! As was said already, we will not get a full grid of u3500NA cars from day one but given a bit of time, we will see, I'm sure, more cars in this group. And if we do see more cars in this group, it's fair to say that the value of those cars is maintained and the racer might one day decide that he can go to S1 group and buy a car to do that. His u3500NA car has value. So those who are on a limited budget (& that's most) can either buy or build a car and go racing.

[toranaracer]

C'mon guys what happened?
Only 14 confirmed entries for Eastern Creek........................................................ :o

Hossack
Jackson
Johnson
Steeden
Butler
Baily
Smith
Jameson
Silvestro
Banks
Axisa
Sera
Macready

Without my umbilical brother Gilliland, it looks like I am in for a good weekend of testing without any racing.

I remember reading somewhere that there were to be a swag of locals to support the National Series when in town.

Petrolhead I do not know what else we can do to help you with entry numbers?

Is it entry fee? Maybe as not many "state" competitors have entered.
Is it travel? Maybe as there are 8 out of the 14 from NSW.
Is it calendar? Is the date close to a NSW State round?

I hope this does not set the trend for the next round at Sandown. :(

toranaracer.

[Toyzda]

The u3500 class appeals to me because it would be alot cheaper to run in and if i ever get the bug which I'm sure i will i can step up to the outright category without much issue.
Spec brakes for u3500 would also be a great idea. Keeping costs down and leveling the playing field (in one area).

"Spec" style class could make it MORE expensive! Who decides on the spec? And it also goes against SS culture... SS (as all classes) only have a level playing field when a group of cars are funded and developed to their maximum. It is this competition to be the fastest that makes it appear to be level. I have never seen a level playing playing field and keeping costs down ever in the one class.
The u3500NA class will get this competition eventually, but not until it is more populated. It should not be thought of as a "junior class" at all. I don't think many cars could jump into u3500NA and beat the mazda or folden. They are fast, it is just hard to tell with the other rocketships in the field!
Another post mentioned 4L or 6cyl class instead of u3500NA. 4L is too close to open. Using the toyota v8 or Ford 6 is an open car. 6 cyl only also goes against SS culture. With the weight/capacity limits the lower capicity cars aren't that much slower than the u3500NA cars.

[Toyzda]

Well said toranaracer, you are spot on! As was said already, we will not get a full grid of u3500NA cars from day one but given a bit of time, we will see, I'm sure, more cars in this group. And if we do see more cars in this group, it's fair to say that the value of those cars is maintained and the racer might one day decide that he can go to S1 group and buy a car to do that. His u3500NA car has value. So those who are on a limited budget (& that's most) can either buy or build a car and go racing.

Well said. I think some of the 6L cars that can't afford to be in open, or are not as competitive with more cars going fast, nearer to the front will consider converting their car to u3500NA rather than parking the car all together.

[toranaracer]

Please come and play with me...............please.........I promise I won't bite B)

toranaracer

[Toyzda]

I have parked the rx-7 (due to an mystry illness) and the 2L NA is being developed to hopefully come and play in u3500NA and u2L next season. If i could get close enough for you to bite i would be very happy.... ;)

[FalconEL]

"Spec" style class could make it MORE expensive! Who decides on the spec? And it also goes against SS culture... SS (as all classes) only have a level playing field when a group of cars are funded and developed to their maximum. It is this competition to be the fastest that makes it appear to be level. I have never seen a level playing playing field and keeping costs down ever in the one class.
The u3500NA class will get this competition eventually, but not until it is more populated. It should not be thought of as a "junior class" at all. I don't think many cars could jump into u3500NA and beat the mazda or folden. They are fast, it is just hard to tell with the other rocketships in the field!
Another post mentioned 4L or 6cyl class instead of u3500NA. 4L is too close to open. Using the toyota v8 or Ford 6 is an open car. 6 cyl only also goes against SS culture. With the weight/capacity limits the lower capicity cars aren't that much slower than the u3500NA cars.

I agree with all that. Well said Toyzda! The U3500NA class in the Kerrick Series has a big future I think!

For the Kerrick Series, I think the combination of S1, S2 and HM classes, the weight and rev limitations, the tyre usage rules that we have to abide by really even up the field and I think the formula is pretty well spot on.

[Ricey88]

2000 x 1.7 = 3400 so why the NA only.
I think it is likely that if there is an interest from new
People to sports sedans it will be in the form of u2l turbo cars.
Anyone know why turbos have been excluded?

Ricey