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Postby Nadz44 » Tue Apr 28, 2009 9:40 pm

Hey Mr Boost thats just my opinion dude, every bodies got one and im just speakin from the years ive seen sports sedans ive never seen non chev do any good as far as the season goes, i give heaps of credit to Boostn 20b i love that car and so to Mikacs rx7 that was just my thought on things....
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Postby 2002 turbo » Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:48 am

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Postby loser » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:07 am

Hey 2002, I think you're spot on there. A well developed turbo engine will be up there with the rest of them, although maintenance on a turbo engine is probably a little more (excepting rotaries that seem to last forever when treated well).
Also, getting the rest of the setup right is hard work which can't be achieved if you never finish. Boost and Snr Boost seem to have the chassis set up pretty well so for them it's time to be developing the engine, and a great job they are doing,although i'm sure it's frustrating, the end result will be awesome..
I opted to buy a developed engine instead, thinking it would save me some money..(WRONG) They made good reliable horsepower at huge boost (check out the top of the regulated blow off. Yes that's right, 3.7bar of boost) Only problem is, there is no way my car would handle anything like that. So we're running it n/a for a couple of years to sort the chassis out.
Sports Sedans is all about thinking outside the square and doing something different, and in the end, anyone who can get any car to the track with any engine and finish a round is doing extremely well.
Keep persisting Boost family and Trent etc. It sure won't happen overnight, but it will happen..



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Postby Blind Man » Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:10 am

With the amount of power both the chevs and turbo cars are putting out these days, I think one the main concern is looking after the tyres. There is no point having so much power that you just destroy your tyres within a race. There are some races where Trents car is faster than our Camaro and some where I feel our car is quciker, but in my opinion it comes down to who has the better tyres on in that race. I think with a turbo car it's just too tempting to wind the boost up and ask too much of bottom end that wasn't designed for that much power.
SB2.2 Chevs are designed to sit on 9000 rpm and over all day so taking them to 7800 rpm is not putting any strain on it at all. With the amount of research and money that goes into these nascar engines it just makes sense to me to go that way. I have always prefered Chevs though so i am bias. I can see how it would be rewarding on the engineering side of things to get so much from a standard engine but it would be frustrating as a driver if the reliability isn't there.
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Postby profi » Wed Apr 29, 2009 2:09 pm

Losers engine,



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Postby Blind Man » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:31 pm

Steve's Toyshop has a similar looking engine for sale.
V6 Buick stage 2, 4.5 litre with 580hp on an engine dyno.
I don't know much else about it myself but the bottom end looks the same.
I'd be keen to see how they go, are you doing any of the national rounds this year loser?
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Postby MrBoost » Wed Apr 29, 2009 4:51 pm

3.7 bar..... hehehehehahahaha i love it. when i first rebuilt my car i ran it at wakefield, i came onto the straight and the thing left black marks in toooo many gears. i was very very excited (and a little scared) the sound of the thing was unbelievable but it would misfire a bit. i brought it in after 3 laps to give it more fuel. when i looked at the log i realised why the car went so well...... the wastegate was jammed shut and boost went off the map sensors limits :)

thought it was too good to be true and i was holding on too tight to ever bother to look at the boost gauge.
inside the car it sounded kinda like aeroplane propellers, like a really fast chook chook chook chook, hehe i love boost
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Postby Phast Phil » Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:33 pm

4 years out of a rotary.......now that is economical racing.
Our Ford comes out EVERY season for a valve train rebuild and every second season some more substantial work. Yes it gives us engine reliability and it also prevents a blow up that would end up costing a lot more than the preventative maintenance so it makes perfect sense.
Most of the best chev runners would be doing the same or at least every 2 seasons.

Yes I think if a rotary turbo team did the same preventative maintenance there would be 100% reliability as would a piston turbo engine if the right set up was utilised and good bits fitted in the first place.

I think it is great that sports sedans have some variety, I just wish that the non V8 guys got on top of the set up better to stick them up the front more often. The rules are free enough now for them to take advantage, they just have not done it yet.

Congrats to Tony for first working hard and then pushing hard to pick up the round win. Look like Darren had the same or better pace but it never fell his way this time. Congrats to the rest that competed also, plenty of cars with good pace on a cold weekend.
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Postby boost'n 20b » Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:13 pm

hey phil,how was your weekend at warick.was talking to your mate with the mazda at dyson rotary today when we dropped our engine off.didn't do much damage to it at all luckly but it's getting a long awaited birthday present.
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Postby loser » Thu Apr 30, 2009 7:00 am

Steve's Toyshop has a similar looking engine for sale.
V6 Buick stage 2, 4.5 litre with 580hp on an engine dyno.
I don't know much else about it myself but the bottom end looks the same.
I'd be keen to see how they go, are you doing any of the national rounds this year loser?

Hi Blind Man, a Buick stage 2 is exactly what it it is. They ran in Indy, nascar, drag racing etc. Do you know how to get in contact with them at Steve's? I might be interested. The Indy engine is 3.5 litre which is perfect for a turbo SS. We also have a 4.5 litre Nascar n/a one that was blown up. We've destroked it to 4 litre to stay in that class for state racing. Just waiting on a new set of JE pistons. Was planning for Mallalla in June but we had a huge crash at Sandown Historics and had to do a big rebuild. We will definitely be at Oran Park later in the year, but not sure if it will be the first National round or the one combined with the state round. Will be good to see how the Torana goes with the bigger engine. It used to run up there with the VN V6 a few years ago can't wait to compare times.
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